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- From: gcaine@cycor.ca (gcaine)
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- Subject: Re: OS features
- Date: 3 Jan 1996 02:13:49 GMT
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- >> More powerful CPU's are great, but if you need them just so that the
- >> OS will function, you've lost the real reason for the better CPU,
- >> (faster processing for your apps).
-
- >Agreed 100%. But I think that both VM and memory protection can be done
- >in a way that avoids that problem.
-
- If that's the case, great they should go for it.
- >
- Certainly, in general, adding
- >features to your OS makes it bigger, but AmigaOS is remarkably tiny for
- >what it does now. It may be that the next generation which includes
- >things like VMM and memory protection squeezes out the very bottom end
- >of the hardware out there now (512Kb 68000 machines), but shucks, I
- >think that the other side of the coin here is that people have to be
- >willing to give up 10 year old hardware if they want to run the latest
- >OSes.
- >There's a fine line between being effecient, and being held back
- >by hopelessly ancient hardware.
-
- Again, I have no argument there, as long as they don't cross the
- line to being ineffecient.
-
- >> wouldn't want more than 16 megs of memory. I don't want to see the
- >> OS "require" it though.
-
- >Neither do I, although I don't think it would be unreasonable to up the
- >minimum supported system a bit. For all the problems of the PC world,
- >one thing it has going for it is that the current "minimum defult
- >system" (i.e, the previous generations's) is basically a 486 with at
- >least 800x600x8-plane graphics. In a year, it'll be a Pentium/100 with
- >PCI graphics cards. True, they have horrible OS bloat, but you can't
- >get around the fact that you can do things on a Pentium/100 (even with a
- >terrible OS) that you just can't do on a basic 68000 with 512K and slow
- >graphics with limited colors and tiny resolutions. Having a bloated OS
- >is bad. Having major, butt-kicking hardware is good :-).
-
- I agree that it would be all right to bring up the minimun a bit. As
- for having butt-kicking hardware, that's good, but it's much better
- if it's being utilised to it's full potential.
-
- I have no problem with adding features that will use a bit more
- resourses, as long as it doen't get out of hand. What I wouldn't
- want are features that are added without any consideration of how
- it will effect the operation of the Amiga.
-
- >I'd really like to see the minimum "productivity" Amiga be something
- >like an 040/33 (arguably akin to a midrange 486) with a graphics card,
- >OS 3.x, and CyberGfx, with a move to PowerAmigas ASAP.
-
- That would have to depend on your definition of productivity. For some
- people running a word processor, in conjuntion with a data base is
- productive, for others it much more.
-
- >The OS should
- >run on lower spec machines (maybe down to 68020s) for game machines,
-
- If it doesn't, the people that bought 1200's this year are going to
- ticked off, and rightly so.
-
- >IMHO we need to get a decent market of reasonably modern machines out
- >there in order for the application base to reflect what a modern Amiga
- >can really do. We're suffering now from not having any development of
- >the machine for years.
-
- And they need to have an OS, that can show off the hardware.
-
- Basically, I don't think we disagree. As I was trying to say before,
- I'm not against memory protection, or VM, as long as the Amiga still
- has the same basic feel it does now, with its shared resourses, good
- multitasking, small memory usage, good speed, and ease of use. If we
- lose that, then we've lost what the Amiga's about.
-
- Gary Caine Member: Team AMIGA
-
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